Dontrayevous Robinson Picks Nebraska
Nebraska got its fifth verbal commitment for its 2009 recruiting class today, securing a pledge from Dontrayevous Robinson. Robinson is a running back out of Euless, Texas. Rivals.com reports him at 6'1'' and 215 pounds. Beyond the measurable size, there are other reasons to be excited about this verbal commitment.
First, Robinson comes from a school in the heart of the Dallas-Fort Worth metro. That's great. Big 12 talent starts in Texas. Robinson is the second player from the Lone Star state in the Husker class for 2009 so far. Nebraska has clearly made recruiting Texas a priority, and they are following through on their mission early.
Robinson is a big back, as 6'1'', 215 is pretty big for a high school runner. He has nice speed, reporting a 4.5 40-yard dash time. He had good production with more than 800 yards rushing and 200 yards receiving as a junior. Like all early-offer prospects, it will be worth watching what he does over the summer and during his senior campaign.
Also, this kid is a winner. He plays at the highest level of Texas prep football (5A) and plays for a state championship team. One of the big variables in evaluating talent is the level of competition they faced. Kids from major programs in states like Texas and California have seen a lot and played a lot. The transition may not be as steep for some of them.
Running Back: A Need?
Is running back a need in this class? Probably not, considering how many are on NU's roster now. But, you always need lots of ball carriers. There are countless examples of teams having to go to their third and fourth running backs by mid-season. Next year, Nebraska will lose its incumbent starter at running back in Marlon Lucky. So, they will add one in their 2009 class.
"All Name" Team
All commitments are non-binding until February's signing day. But, I'll say this. If Robinson signs with NU, he would become an instant member of my "All Name" team. Let's face it, Dontrayevous is a heck of a handle for a young man. It might be some sort of hybrid. Do we name him Dontrell? How about Tray? Or maybe Octaveus? I know...Dontrayevous. Apparently the kid goes by the name Tray. So, to paraphrase the movie "Coming to America"...If his momma calls him Tray, I'm gonna call him Tray.
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45 comments so far
darren May 17 08
*Late editorial note*
I just finished watching the YouTube video on this kid, and it looks like he lined up at FB quite a bit in HS. They ran a FB Trap play with him quite often.
Could be that NU is looking at him as a FB prospect. And, as I said in an earlier post, that is a position of need.
ze bop May 17 08
Dontrayevous, yeah that's a mouthful. I think I maybe have figured out where some of those southern guys names have come from, especiall the Louisiana guys: it's French, that is, there seems to be a big French influence in alot of those hybrid names....I mean, it was all French down in that region before the Brits came and kicked 'em out..tookover...
Maybe I'm wrong.
Anyway, keep those TX coming! He sounds fast for a fullback and just average speed for RB. Whatever, as long as he can run..but it would be nice to get some real speed burners at the RB position.
chester May 17 08
Another 1 star. Keep up the good work!!!
darren May 17 08
I'm sensing some sarcasm there, Chester.
Interestingly, Shawn Bodtmann and Cole Pensick were just moved to 3-star rated players by Scout.com. Niether had been evaluated/rated at the time of pledging to NU. And, there was all this concern... And, had they been rated as 3 star players prior to commiting to NU, would there have been so much concern? I strongly doubt it.
So, I'm pretty confident that Robinson's (and other players') ratings from those services will increase now, too. Those things are often 'trailing indicators' and it is very, very early in the process.
Oh, and don't fret too much. NU still has offers out to a ton of 4 and 5 star rated prospects. That might help some fans sleep. :-)
James Moore May 17 08
It seems that this staff knows what it's looking for. In and of itself that is very reassuring. More or less we in Husker Nation spent every week after the Missouri game last year wanting a new coach, and specifically Bo. We got him, and now we need to support him and assume that HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING. These guys haven't even played their senior years yet and we don't even know where they will be evaluated at the end of the year. I'm pretty sure that Coach Pelini knows football, an idea of how to develop athletic talent, and what kind of guys he can make into productive members of the Nebraska football program.
Besides, does anyone smell a potential LB (aka Cody Glenn switch for Bordtmann and Robinson) if they can't make the top of the depth chart? 20-30 lbs later and you have some very, very, very fast Sam and Will Backers. We're recruiting athletes. These early commits have some speed. You can't teach that. . .
BUD May 17 08
Thank goodness we recieved Dontrayevous commitment before New Mexico or Utah could snag him. I'm thinking about putting my name in the mix, if they are just going to be handing out scholarships like this. Once again could of picked this kid up later in the recruiting process and used this scholarship on a Blue Chipper. For those of you wondering what a Blue Chipper is "Lawrence Phillips, Reggie Bush, Tyrelle Pryor," Thats the type of players we need. I think Pelini learned how to recruit from Fanky S.
Greg Morrow May 17 08
I think it was Brad, who mentioned something to the effect of squatting a "bowflex," which, when I glance over at my "power tower," I think is funny! (Brutal angles)
Nebraska teams used to continually recruit running backs in high school for the sole purpose of making them safeties, corners and of course, "wingback." Year after year, until, say around...'05. (Callahan did a good job, just to get what he got, in '04) '05 is when the "prototypes" were recruited and the only shifting positions was with guys already on the roster. Guys like Willie Amos, big Seppo, Isiah Fluellen, Tierre Green (too many times, what a waste of an already brief career) Jared Helming and Chris Patrick. Overall, an unproductive, unecessary and detrimental effort.
There was also a time, when most players, on scholarship or no, didn't get alternating time or better, until their 4th seasons on campus. Those were the team's base and the coaches then scoured and searched for the sprinkling of "difference makers." Apart from those, most of the all conference guys had to put in their time.
Point is, the current staff is evaluating guys who look good playing football and project out to the future, not just posin 'n' primpin at the camps. They've offered to many of those guys too and time will tell who bites. No doubting though, Pelini will have to haul in some top end athletes, sprinkled in the mix.
That so far, looks like a part of the tradition Pelini's trying to re-established. A stonger foundation of guys at all levels of development and readiness. Who knows, maybe Pelili got some sage advise in that regard...
And if you don't like it- "tough!"
Dwayne May 17 08
I saw some video of Bodtmann and he looked pretty tough with a motor that didn't seem to quit. A couple of times he delivered some contact while carrying the ball which is intriguing to see. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'll take a coach that can make a 3 star a 4 versus a 5 star blue chip recruit a 4 any day of the week. Who in the hell has any idea at this point what a 5 star is? There are probably really only a dozen at this point in the process and to put that pressure on this staff at this point of the calendar is ridiculous. They have been here how long? 6 months? A 5 star has to be pretty special to commit to Pelini at this point if what Pelini is offering them is an opportunity. And that's the way I think it should be.
LeDoux May 17 08
If you guys are already tired of Pelini, please rest assured, we could enjoy his services again down here in bayou country. The proof is in the pudding
chester May 18 08
Come on guys!!! Stars in recruiting does not matter, i mean just look at USC and Ohio St. class of recruited. If somebody tells me on this website again that stars don't matter, i'm going smack some sense into ya!!! Wake up people!!!
Dwayne May 18 08
Chester,
I don't know if anyone is saying that stars don't matter but tell me the difference between a 3 and a 4 star. Which schools recruit them?
omarhuskerfan May 18 08
Chester,
ask Notre Dame about their 5 star recruits.
ze bop I believe that the British didn't push out the French we bought them out...ie the Louisiana purchase.
I'm glad that we are locking up some recruits now.
ze bop May 18 08
the british never JUST bought anybody out, just ask India....
chester May 18 08
omarhuskerfan,
Look at Notre Dumbs recruiting class before Weis got there. They had low ranked recruiting classes. Why do you think they suck now? College football is all about recruiting and always will be with the exception of a couple teams per year. Again people look at the teams that continually recruit well year in and year out! They are consistantly always highly ranked and in contentions for conference/National Chapionships! And for the bozo who asked about, what the difference between 3 star and a 4 star recruit? The difference of getting a Big 12 chapionship and not getting a Big 12 Chapionship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????
mjm May 18 08
Chester,
If 4 and 5 star recruits win B12 championships, why didn't Callahan win one his last 2 years on campus? According to your logic, the first 2 years would have been a waste with Callahan upgrading the players. So years 3 and 4 should have started to produce good results with much better 4 and 5 star talent. So why didn't we win a B12 championship the last 2 years of Callahan's tenure?
Dwayne May 18 08
Chester,
If what you're saying is true then NU probably should not have gone below 500 last season. College football is more than recruiting, it's a combination of several different variables, some of which are fluid from one week to the next. FSU has struggled in the past several years as well and I think they have had decent recruting classes according to the "experts". Shouldn't NU have been guaranteed a spot in the Big XII title game with OU if it was based purely on recruiting rankings? Why hasn't Texas won more titles than OU based on their recruiting rankings? There is more to it than what you infer, but how would I know? I'm just a bozo.
darren May 18 08
Hiya folks,
Keep it civil, please.
Recruiting is clearly the "gateway" topic to some serious disagreements.
Some fans are really concerned about the state of recruiting at this point. Other are not.
Either way, I think the conversation will be lot more informed - and therefore intelligent - when there is more "hay in the barn".
No doubt, we'll all evaluate the coaches - pros and cons - on many things, including recruiting. But, wow, it is too early to feel this strongly either way.
And, oh yeah, please keep it classy.
Greg Morrow May 18 08
Callahan couldn't nab enough of the "very highly touteds," to feed the need. Plus, he reached for way, way too many JCs, when it mattered. If you look at the classes of SC, Bevo and Okie, this decade, you'd see close to half the rosters are 4 and 5*'s. Nebraska has never, EVER, out recruited teams like that for half it's roster. Did I mention EVER?! Yet, the trophy case is loaded with shiny stuff, including those 3 awesome crystal footballs.
Those 3 teams have been top five almost the whole time this decade, but last count, they share all of 3 1/2 titles between them. Louisiana st. is actually tied with SC this decade with 1 1/2.
Baby steps, baby.
First, a solid top 25 team, with no more wild, roller coaster inconsistency. Nebraska has the players to do that (thanks to Callahan). Pelini's brought back the coaching, which was obviously lacking.
Then, beat down the Top Ten's door. That's where Pelini is going to have to recruit the smattering of legit "difference makers," at every position grouping. Not every year, but at least every two. If they don't show up with stars, he'll definitely need to hang some on them. Lockdown corners and deadly linebackers, for example.
Osborne, before 60-3, got great IB's and Quarterbacks about one, in every recruitng cycle. Just look at the 4 year cycles, from '80 on. Turner, Steve Taylor and Tommie were years apart. Top backs were closer together, but not every year, like Osborne's last 3 classes. Derek Brown and Calvin Jones being obvious exceptions.
Development. It's the "Nebraska way" and it's the only way. Or else, it's "no way."
BTW, are the any bigger, genuine buffoons, than those who disparage Tom Osborne?
That group performs with the "clown posse."
Dwayne May 19 08
I couldn't agree with you more Greg. It is fairly easy to debate a point when the individual you're debating makes that point for you. Chester just proves my point that there are more intangibles than just reeling in a top notch recruit when he mentions hiring Cosgrove. My point always was there are several more factors than what Chester eludes to than just getting a blue chipper.
1. recruting and retention-Callahan could get some of the 4 and 5 stars, however a few left prior to fullfilling their 4 years commitment. At this point right now, it is difficult for NU to compete against Texas, OSU, USC, and Florida for big time recruits, but I don't feel it isn't something this staff shouldn't strive to do.
2. player development-like Greg mentions, NU has to have a staff with the ability to get the most of each player. The roster is probably at this point going to be littered with 3 star recruits. This isn't something to scoff at, but I believe an opportunity for NU to differentiate itself from other programs.
3. motivation and inspiration-Emotion alone could get you NU a win or two which could be the difference in competing for a conference championship and a BSC berth.
These are a couple of keys that a staff must have as was witnessed within the past 4 years under Callahan. Callahan maybe had a few but not all.
My other point earlier and Darren mentions it as well. It is way too early to judge and ridicule a staff that pulls in a commitment from a recruit who is rated with 1 or 2 stars.
BUD May 19 08
I agree with Chester, we are not going to get anywhere with theses recruits. Urban Meyer didn't seem to have any problems recruiting his first year, neither did Stoops, Saban, or Tressel. There is at least 4 National Titles in that group. Callahan Recruits sucked because they were JUCO players and only had 2 years. I f big name schools are not recruiting these players, then these are not big time players. The players from Texas haven't even recieved an offer from there home state powerhouses such as Texas or Texas A & M. WAKE UP People.
bnahusker May 19 08
Is there anyone that can explain why someone would take the time to read sites like this, and then follow up with comments when they all they have to offer is negative? This used to be a site were I didn't have to read how much someone sucked, or how bad thier team sucked etc. etc. Come on people, be fans. Maybe the BRN needs to cut off the comment section for a while. Meanwhile.............
GBR
Bob
darren May 19 08
Bud and Chester - please don't call names.
You can have strong opinions and make all the arguments you want. But, stop short of personal attacks, please. It's only civil.
Maybe take a look a the comment guidelines, in case you didn't see them.
And, yes, before somebody calls me out (again)...I once called Mark Mangino names in a post. I regret that.
James Moore May 19 08
I think in light of the intensity of some of the posts in regards to the merits of signing Mr. Robinson, the wiser heads at bigrednetwork.com decided to post highlights of Tray. . .
Well it seems that the coaching staff was viewing a versatile, fundamentally sound RB/FB with good vision, finishes his runs with power, could catch in the flat or downfield, is a good run blocker, and tough inside the 3 and 4 holes. If I had to speculate on what the coaching staff saw it was probably that. Something else to think about as well. This kid is 6'-1" and 205 with a 4.5 speed. Seems that he didn't take to poorly to being asked to do the dirty work. Those kind of athletic numbers would almost insure a 30 carry per game TB at the high school level. This kid seems to LOVE to play football, and when he was asked to do any number of tasks besides carry the ball he carried out his assignment. . .
Good sign. I don't care how many stars he has. Bet you he's a 3-star before the end of his senior year (which he has not played yet). Stars are important but Ganz got 2. Seems that he's turned out Ok.
GO BIG RED!!!
Johnny May 19 08
Why is my comment not posted? It is a legit comment!
Jason May 19 08
Johnny, your comment wasn't posted because it was mostly taking shots at other commenters. If you'd like to share your opinion without name calling, please do.
I deleted a couple other comments from others that were just name calling as well.
As our long time readers know, we encourage discussion but require folks to keep it civil. Take a look at our commenting guidelines. If you're looking for more of a free for all, there are lots of other places to find that. If you want to have a civilized debate based on facts and reasoned opinions, by all means, fire away.
doombob May 19 08
Stars are important, but if I were a head football coach, I would go by what I see on film and what high school coaches that I trust tell me. None of what is discussed on this or any other blog/news source will make any difference to the staff in charge. They will get their few years to recruit and try to make those players great.
Jason May 20 08
For what it's worth, the Journal Star addressed recruiting for "concerned parties."
"Husker head coach Bo Pelini has said he’s not interested in star rankings, just getting good football players. That’s not to say Nebraska coaches aren’t after some heralded recruits, too. But one thing they’ve shown early on is that they’re not afraid to trust their eyes and extend scholarship invitations to kids not on the national radar screen."
It's worth a read.
doombob May 20 08
Concerned parties = whiners.
Jason May 20 08
Dang it doombob. Things were just settling down again. :)
DT May 20 08
It looks like this is going to be a long summer...so I may as well do what I can to provide some reading material as we head into it:
I don't know if any of this is going to make any sense, in the context of the current comments on this story...but I read Steve's writeup on "Bo picks old wounds" last weekend and (although my thoughts are probably more appropriate to that post) they really sort of dovetail with the tone of the discussion here.
While it's crazy to me that some folks would like to use this as a platform to openly bash juniors in high school, of whom little is likely known by anyone at this point...I guess I respect their right to do so. But I think if we'd look deeper, we'd find the root of this lies in the age-old debate over the firing of Solich. It was at that point in history that lines were drawn and sides were chosen and allegiances formed. This resulted in a hopeless chasm between those who supported Callahan as his successor and those who felt he didn't necessarily deserve their support, as they believed that Solich got the shaft in the first place. Over the course of the four years that followed, it seems a great many Husker fans continued to harbor these grudges and in the process lost sight of the proverbial "name on the front of the jersey" in favor of bickering with one another on behalf of a particular "name on the back" (or more fitting in this case...the name on the head coach's office door).
Now we have come full circle, where the particulars of note have both been removed. The Solich backers have seemed to self-righteously claim Bo as one of their own (See also: Huskervision "Return to Tradition" videos...watch guys lining up at hotel warming pans full of roast beef for $24.99!) Pride being what it is, it seems to have left the remaining handful of stragglers who are willing to offer thinly-veiled support of the Callahan regime with nothing else to do but to continue their vocal opposition of their half-decade-long verbal punching bags.
So all this results (as witnessed here) in unabashed criticism of a kid from Texas (who no one here can claim one shred of knowledge, beyond that what's been published on recruiting sites and a couple of scant minutes of youtube video) and the coaches who got him to commit to NU! Are you guys really willing to reach to the depths of making allusions to this kid not having as many fictitious "stars" as (I'm left to assume) a Callahan recruit might garner?! If so, I've truly seen it all.
All I've got to ask as this point is what has this world come to? Are the extremists really in such lock-step with their tired ideologies that we're actually even having this discussion?! It's all pretty tired and played...but is in no way surprising, if left to judge from the common level of discourse that permeates our country's society nowadays. These idiot politicians feed everyone this flag-waving nonsense in ads and stump speeches...while in the meantime, not any making concessions as to how we all (Red, Blue or Independent) share similar concerns and plights, but rather how much we differ from the opposition's supporters and exactly why they're the ones responsible for our concerns and plights. The reason I chose that word "extremists" is because that's exactly what I feel these Husker fans are...while the rest of us in the otherwise silent majority continue to acknowledge both the successes and failures of both the Solich and Callahan regimes and are supporting Bo with the same cautious optimism that we've found to be practical and effective in offering our support to both of the aforementioned NU coaches. In saying that, I'm personally supporting Bo, not because he's some sort of twisted appendage of a bygone era, but because he's unique to himself and he's an up-and-coming young coach with a terrific resume who's worth getting excited about. Still, some would rather keep their thought mired in the past--passing time complaining about Solich being deserving of some sort of rah-rah, homecoming jerk-off...or (worse yet) belittle new recruits for not being up to Callahan's 4-star standards. Chalk my opinion up as "pathetic" on both counts with an addition charge of "over, get with the times".
But anyway, I love that BRN presents the news of the day on all things Husker and very rarely does so in a way that I'd suggest as editorializing or pandering to either extreme. The guys who blog on this site put the facts out there in a straightforward manner and I can't even recall a case of when I've noticed them using this forum to criticize or disparage any NU coach, player or administrator. Not even every NU blog can say the same and that's what sets BRN apart in this instance. The guys here take a more fact-based approach, where many others come across as more of a sounding board of opinion. There just so happens to be a big brouhaha going on right now about bloggers and their role in the greater construct of mass-media. Members of the mass-media's old guard are using every possible outlet and avenue to discredit blogs with examples lacking in journalistic standards. Well, I was educated in journalism and I know a thing or two about some of the standards that these folks like to bandy about. With that said, I can assert that BRN has always appeared as being a blog that always takes the effort to conform to the standards applicable to the tradition of educated journalists. That's not at all intended as a knock on other NU blogs in the slightest (or any other blogs, for that matter), as I love them all for their quirky individual strengths. I only intended to illustrate one of the strengths here...I read this blog daily and love to read what the BRN guys contribute as well as the many regular commenters who have developed a voice of their own in this forum (guys like doombob, zebop, James Moore...really there are too many to mention without feeling like I'm leaving someone out...but they all help to contribute to the overall flavor that is so appealing about reading BRN). It's all too infrequent that I take the time to toss my two cents into the feedback...but after witnessing the couple of lively discussions that I have recently, I just wanted to include that (in light of other current national blogging discussions) this is exactly what makes blogs so relevant in this day and age: We started out with a story about a junior in high school who committed to join Nebraska's football recruiting class next spring...a story that contained not much beyond the facts of the issue at hand...and we concluded with the spirited debate of opinions witnessed in the comments that followed.
Well done to everyone involved! And thanks for all of your collective, continued hard work!
DT May 20 08
And in case I brought the mood down too far or got too preachy or whatever...my bad. But in the spirit of steering things back to the subject of recruiting, here is all that my knowledge will allow me to contribute:
>Cole Pensick-sounds like a NASCAR driver that Tom Cruise may or may not have played in a movie about a cocky, brash, young driver...undisciplined in the principles of winning racing--Until a cagey father-figure sort takes Cole under his wing and shows him the path to victory lane (all while sharing a bit about life and love along the way).
>Shawn Bodtmann-sounds like a building on campus..."I've got to go over to the lab in Bodtmann and turn in my final project".
>Thaddeus Randle-sounds like a guy from the Book of Isaiah...(possibly might have received a mention in Isaiah 53:5--the official bible verse of the rock band Stryper.)
>CJ Zimmerer, sounds like a guy who might have once ruined the Cubs pennant chances by catching a foul ball that he should have let stay in play...or an ump who might have ruined the Cubs pennant chances by blowing a call in a playoff game...or a Cubs catcher who lost the ball in a collision during a critical play at the plate, thus destroying the Cubs pennant chances...or a Cubs manager who had them out of playoff contention by mid-May for years on end. In any event, a guy who might've once ruined the Cubs pennant chances.
>Dontrayevous Robinson, sounds like a guy who might've stolen his grandmother's car and went on a joyride when he was 7-years-old, as further referenced here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKN64o-vHyU
THE DADDY May 20 08
This team doesn't have a chance in the future with the level of talent they are recruiting. Don't you honestly think Texas would have offered this kid in their own backyard if he was worth a darn. I think the future is very bleak, I have already started to search for a new team that is going to have more talent and excitement than NU is with their recruiting, maybe Iowa school for the deaf.
Jason May 21 08
Thanks for that DT.
Wow, Daddy. You're ready to write off the future of Husker football based on your assessment of the skill level of a handful of high school Juniors. Enjoy cheering for your new team.
bnahusker May 21 08
THE DADDY...............
You are "searching" for a new team?
Interesting concept. I usually feel that "my" teams chose me. By their actions and efforts, I have become a fan of several teams, in many sports. I caution you though, trying to make emotional commitments with objective criteria can only lead to you searching for a new "new" team by the time the juniors that you are worried about are finishing their second training camp. But guess what? We'll be here to welcome you back to the fold.
Good luck with ISD this season and as always...........
GBR
Bob
Dwayne May 21 08
DT,
Interesting. Now you've peaked my curiosity of a few prior commits, one of who is no longer with the team. Marlon Lucky. Harrison Beck.
DT May 21 08
Sure thing Dwayne...
>Marlon Lucky-or more notably, "Lucky Marlon" as he was known in his time as a depression-era mafia underboss...possibly may have partnered with Frank Costello to head up bootlegging operations for the Genovese crime family during prohibition.
>Harrison Beck-Star of the silver screen in the 40's & 50's. Though he suspiciously never got his due...always seeming to receive second-billing to Cary Grant, Jimmy Stewart, Burt Lancaster and the like.
JBLING22 May 21 08
Anybody Remember a guy named Carriker?? Pretty Sure he was a three star guy, Who wanted him??? What about Baker Steinkuler this last year, Nebraska Offered him early , he excepted, hes a five star, nobody else had offered at the time Nebraska did, of course many would have later on, if he wasn't strong on Nebraska...But does that mean he shouldn't of got a scholarship offer when Nebraska decided to offer him....... You also have to remember, we had a losing record last year.. You guys forget already, I know we want too??? You can't expect our coaches to come in and get all 4 and 5 star guys, when they haven't even coached a season together, not to mention what they are doing now is great/// Getting into Texas and opening doors...
Finally if you can't see that kids like Shawn Bodtmann and Dontrayevous Robinson are worthy of scholarships, thats your own problem, but Im more than happy that these kids are coming to Nebraska.... Watch their video, and especially that of Tray Robinson, and you will see a hard nose, football player that always falls forward.. and I will laugh at you haters in 4 years when we have a great team, it dosn't happen over night unless your damn lucky...... Once you start winning big games then you start getting more 5 star recruits, they don't normally just drop out of the sky... I trust Pelini's and company to bring in the type of guys we need, as you can see from our past recruting big recruits dont always mean big production.. Harrison Beck who??? Leon Jackson, good player , still here nope........ Stars don't mean quality every time....
Whats the point of having a Mercedes Benz if it dosn't run???
Jimmy Lowe May 21 08
Wow, we are way behind in and on recruiting! This is not good! Very nervous! If we don't pick it up, we are going to look like a Div. III team! We need athlets and we need them soon! We are way behind the top 10 teams in the country in recruiting right now! We will continue to fall behind with recruiting shot in the dark recruits and not going with proven talent! I'm behind rival and the ranking period. I'm sick tired of people on this site saying that stars don't matter! I have never seen USC/Ohio st. recruit nothing but 4 and 5 star recruits and that is why they are so consistant year and year out, "Cream of the Crop." Talent is about 65% of how to get to a championship!!! Nobody can argue this point!!! It's prove in the theory and especially in the facts!
bnahusker May 21 08
Jimmy Lowe.............
Bo & Co. have been on Campus for less than 6 months! It might be a bit early to sing a Gloom and Doom Chorus medley. They've barely had time to establish contact, much less cement relationships. If we don't see improvement in a year or two, one can panic. This isn't Gameboy or Playstation. If rebuilt correctly, Bo will have plenty of "Stars" commiting. There is a difference between investing, and playing Powerball.
If you are truley disheartnened, maybe you can join THE DADDY on his trips to ISD home games.
GBR!
JBLING22 May 21 08
I'm Guessing all you people that are crabbing and crying about our star rankings, were in love with coach Callahan.........Stop whining already..... I'm guessing all of you wanted a new coach, and the majority vote would have picked Bo Pelini, other than of course someone like Les Miles... So give the guy a chance already, if they believe these kids are good enough to offer a scholarship to already, then I'm going to think they know a heck of a lot more than all of you writing negatives about these players... They are juniors in highschool, not even seniors yet, its all a guessing game who will turn out and who won't.. From what I've seen from this kids video, we are darn lucky to have him suit up for the BIG RED.. Hes a hard nose runner, with great balance and always falling forward when getting tackled, not to mention runs like a 4.5.... For those of you still crying about not getting 4 to 5 stars, the problem is you have to earn them... That is you have to start wining with what you have, once you start winning then you have a chance at the highly coveted players... You say well we got some in the 90's , but that s because we were a 80% + win team for the decade..We were not even .500 last year, learn to crawl before thinking you can win a marathon... We need to stop acting like the 45 year old who hasn't got over their glory days, as a highschool football captain.. It was a fun time, it was good time, a time thats great to remember, but its a different time and we have to think about the here and now..
Give Pelini and his staff a couple of years to make a name for the Huskers Again, thats right , we have to make a name for oursleves again on the national stage.. For those of you who still don't realize it, the 90's was a while ago... Teams like West Virgina, Cincanatti, SouthFlorida, or any of the teams in the Big East, were laughers then, now they have consistently put better teams on the field than the Huskers have during the 2000's..
Maybe these players aren't the ones to help us win a national championship day one, but Ill take a bunch of kids playing their heart out any day....
brad May 22 08
The rallying cry of the homers is "I'll take kids that play with heart any day!"
Okay.
That would be great except that the top talent works hard and plays with heart as well. In addition, they are usually better athletes as well.
The type of talent that Oklahoma and LSU bring in (talent that Bo I-don't-need-stars Pelini built his reputation with) will flatten our no-name players with heart any day. They already did it to Solich's players when he recruited like Pelini is trying to.
Why does there have to be so much mythology surrounding recruiting at Nebraska???
Jim May 23 08
Carriker was a 3 star from Rivals and a 1 star from Scout. As for stars, I like to see them, but I'm learning that they aren't the be all, end all. I'll admit I'm a little concerned, but I'm also going to give the coaches a chance. I'm pretty certain they know what they're looking for, so if they see something they like, they're going to go for it. Pelini doesn't beat around the bush. As the years go on, players will like that. They'll know where they stand. I think that's why a lot of recruits left during the Callahan years. They weren't dealt with straight. It may take a couple years to get the recruiting right, but we'll see. Sure, maybe Urban Meyer got great recruits right off, but he also had players there, and they didn't have any fall off in performance, so it's easier for recruits to go there. I think Pelini has talent here, and if the Huskers do better than last year (and hopefully that won't be difficult), you'll see guys start to come here. One thing to keep in mind is what Darren posted way up top. There are a lot of 4 and 5 guys that have us on their lists. Check out Rivals or Scout and see what schools a player is interested in. I think currently there are more of those 4 & 5 guys than there were with Callahan. I've been tracking that. It's good to at least see us on those lists. I haven't in the past. It doesn't mean they'll come here, but at least they're thinking about it. Also keep in mind, there aren't that many 5 guys available. And, if you look at the points between a 3 & 4 guy and a 4 & 5 guy, there isn't that much difference. A good 3 star with drive, ambition and heart is as good as a 4 star that thinks the world owes him (OK, a 4 star with drive, ambition and heart would be good too!). Sure there are duds at 3, 4, and 5 stars, but there are also dudes at each. And, for some of the guys we've gotten so far, I think the stars will come and be around the 3 area as some already have.
James Moore May 23 08
DT,
Thanks. I could not agree more with all of your main points in your posting. . .
Daddy,
Really man? Looking for a "new team"? How does a Nebraska Cornhusker fan do that? Is there anyone here that can imagine NOT being a Nebraska football fan after getting bit by the bug? When I was in London for New Year's 2001/2002 I stayed up ALL NIGHT (2 am kickoff GMT) and watched the Rose Bowl because (1) THAT'S MY SQUAD, & (2) that would be the last time I'd get to see them until next season. Didn't turn off the Kansas game this past year, Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, Colorado 2001 or any other game that didn't work our way. I broke it off witha girl I was in the early stages of seeing when she started talkin trash during the USC game. How do you abondon Nebraska football? Even if ze bop, or the guys who run this site were coaching the Huskers I'd still support them. How do you STOP loving Nebraska football?
James Moore May 23 08
Last three points:
(1) Is it not possible that because he was a FB this past year and NOT the feature back that he STARTS with 3 stars? Again look at his athletic numbers and ask what he would be doing with 30 carries per game (6'-1" & 205/210 is something you feed over, and over again at the HS level). Perhaps, just perhaps he was slotted at FB because he had a solid TB as a Senior ahead of him. Perhaps, just perhaps he's gonna be their feature back this year and have a breakout Senior year that will garner him national attention. . .
(2) If he is magically awarded a 4th star is he suddendly acceptable to his detractors?
(3) Could you imagine being a teenager and getting ripped like this before you even put on the pads and go through that goose-bump inducing Tunnel Walk?
Welcome to Nebraska football Tray. We look forward to having you as a member of the Big Red Machine. . .
GO BIG RED!!!
JBLING22 May 28 08
I think its funny that people still don't believe what the coaching staff is doing and crying about star ratings.... Check out Scout.com's list of RB prospects, people complained that we offered Dontrayveous Robinson... According to that site We have only offered 6 true running back recruits David Oku a five star, Chris Whaley, Dalton Hilliard, Christine Michael all 4 stars... and Waymon James A TCU Committ.. The only other offer to a true RB was Tray Robinson... Apparenly he must be well deserving otherwise he wouldn't have been offered... I for one, especially after seeing his film, am excited for him to join the sea of red