Mike Mar 01 07

Nice job on the research.

-- Wake Forest is *always* last in the ACC in recruiting so it's not like they're going the wrong way.

-- You said Wake Forest has a good quarterback. Under your logic, Riley Skinner (the ACC Rookie of the Year) can't be a good quarterback, he was only a 2-star recruit.

-- Wake Forest's luck could run out? Geez, I hope so. The Deacons lost their starting quarterback, preseason All-ACC running back, left tackle, and honorable mention All-American defensive end, either in the preseason or in September. If their luck changes, maybe they'll actually be healthy.

doombob Mar 01 07

I guess that makes Oklahoma lucky!

Blake Mar 02 07

"When you get outgained but still win - that's luck my friend!"

Or a product of great coaching and clutch players that do what it takes to win games...

Wake tends to go with the "bend but don't break" defense...

If you're so concerned with stats....why not look up how well Wake did in the redzone on offense AND defense...

and how many INTs did Wake have in the redzone?

Wake may have let other teams pile it on between the 20s....but they had the skill it took to keep their opponents out of the endzone

And I don't care who you are, how down the ACC is, or what kind of recruits you land...beating FSU 30-0 in Tallahassee is a feat few can claim (and only one since Bowden took over)

john jones Mar 02 07

Nice research. How many stars was Zac Taylor who could not crack the starting line up while at Wake Forest. Funny how Wake recruited more team speed than Nebraska for the second year in a row. Keep your head in the "stars" and await the beat down you will receive in September in Winston Salem.

Thomas Mar 02 07

You must realize that Wake, first off, won the games. Call it luck, call it skill, they still won the games. They played toe to toe with a legitimate Louisville team in the Orange Bowl. However, you must realize that they do two things really well. They recruit kids into their program that will work there, they do not get the 5 star studs but you can bet that they get kids who are just as fast, just as strong and a lot smarter than most schools. FInally, the last thing that people fail to realize is that the Wake offense is built around two things: 1. Being consistent and taking care of the ball. No huge flashy plays that often but you will also rarely see a TO. 2. They have a great special teams unit. Not only can they kick and punt well to pin opponents but they also are able to do returns very well. The average starting position, when taken into account, makes Wake actually out gain opponents. Lastly, anyone who fails to realize the losses that they suffered last year is blind and short-sighted. Not only did they lose their starting QB (a good thing maybe?) but they lost their first string RB, their second one couldn't hold onto the ball, the third got injured and the WR convert to RB even got banged up and missed a game. You try playing a game with your 5th string RB in a offense that is normally run-heavy.

Do not take them lightly, other people did last year and they learned their lesson...

David Mar 02 07

Steve, you just don't get it. If you knew anything about college football, you'd know that star-rankings don't mean anything. 1-star recruit Chris Barclay, ACC Player of the year would agree. Major outlets like scout and rivals give out rankings after players declare who they are interested in. Think about it. They want people coming to their website, right? How do you get more people to come? Lets see, you say recruits from OSU, Nebraska, UNC, and Florida are five-stars. Alumni, all one million of them, from these schools want more information, and therefore come to their site, whereas if you give five-stars to a recruit Wake is chasing, you will not get so many hits on your site because of the fact that Wake is a small school, with only 3,000 undergrads. Look at it this way. You say, "for every 2-star that turns out like Riley, there are many, many more that are not Div-I caliber." Now think about this. Does every five star recruit Nebraska gets turn out to be all-conference? I don't think so. You guys are typical Big-12 fans, who think you can't lose, so get ready to have your asses handed to you by Little Ole' Wake Forest.

Mike Mar 02 07

Sorry, I thought the goal of the game was to score more points? You can get out-gained as long as you win field position (which Wake Forest did every game), have a lethal kicker whose range extends to 55 or 60 (which Wake Forest has), and when you get into the redzone offensively, you score (88 percent this year) and most importantly, you win the turnover margin (Skinner threw just five picks all year and the defense intercepted 22). Is that luck?

And I guess coaching accounts for nothing? Look, the stars system is crap. There are just as many 4- or 5-star busts as there are 2- or 3-star guys who turn out to be studs. Steve Vallos (first team All-American) and Chris Barclay (2005 ACC Player of the Year) were 2-star guys. Barely recruited.

The luck of winning close games? Look beyond 2006 for a moment. In 2005, Wake Forest fumbled away a chance to beat Jay Cutler and Vanderbilt in the opener (lost 24-20), blew a 9-point lead in the final 3:30 at 14th-ranked BC (lost 35-30). 2004... lost in 2ot at 15th-ranked Clemson... lost 27-21 in ot at NC State... had four shots at the endzone from inside the five with 30 seconds left but lost 17-10 to Virginia Tech... lost 20-17 to 5th-ranked Florida State.

It's obvious this team has been knocking on the door for several years. I'd argue they broke through in 2006. To say the program is going nowhere... you're obviously unfamilar with the levels of hell where this program has been.

Clearly, it is moving up the ladder. Wake Forest won 37 games in the 1990s. They've won 36 games in the past six years under Grobe.

Grobe is the reason for it. Nebraska should have hired him instead of Callahan. But he's locked up with the Deacons now.

Jay Mar 02 07

Switzer WAS a genius, dude.

Who can forget the hook and lateral against Nebraska in the final 2 minutes to win the game?

As an OU fan for life (and a Wake grad), I almost felt sorry for good-guy Tom Osborne because he ALWAYS lost the big game against OU -- except when he beat them, but then LOST to them in the Orange Bowl. Life just isn;t fair.

But seriously, want to talk coaching genius, look across the sidelines in September. You will WISH you had a coach more able to take advantage of your team strength.

As it is, you will be facing a team that will KILL you with our speed.

Keep buying up our season tickets and drinking that Kool-aid -- and relying on Scout and Rivals for football rankings! Hahaha. You do know football rankings are a joke, right? Basketball? Very servicable, but football? Please. Our continued success will bare that out.

BTW, I hear they tore down AK-SAR-BEN. What a travesty. What do people do for fun now? Watch the corn grow? Or wait for the children to emerge FROM the corn?

Chris Luper Mar 02 07

When Nebraska gets a two star commit, rivals and scout fall all over themselves to re-evaluate them.

When Wake gets a two star recruit, nothing happens.

2 vs 3 stars with rivals and scout is a complete joke.

Mike Mar 02 07

"Or do you think Wake has some unique ability to find guys that are somehow unnoticed by the top echelon of college football?"

Yes. That's exactly what most people in this part of the world think.

Read this: http://www.newsobserver.com/764/story/540426.html

Jim Mar 02 07

Steve,

All people are asking is that you be somewhat reasonable... I don't think anybody here is saying that Wake is going to be NC contenders, most don't think we can compete for the ACC again.

You hold the star system as near fact and most of the top programs do... the difference lies with our coaching staff. They actually go see the kids play in person instead of accepting scout and rivals who rely on regional reports. Heck Grobe has stated many times that some of the 4 or 5 star kids he sees "couldn't play dead in an Old Western."

Bottom line... for the big boys the star system works but for the other programs they have to do it a different way... they find 'FOOTBALL PLAYERS' and redshirt guys... therefore when they are seniors, they are just as big and just as strong... as for speed... our classes have had loads of it lately so you can throw that out.

On to your NW comparison... major flaw in your comparison is that Barnett left, Grobe is still here. I would contend that NW would have maintained competitiveness with Barnett but he used NW as his stepping stone. Grobe loves Wake and sees what he is building.

Hope to meet a bunch of Huskers come Sept. Also look forward to talking football with great football fans. Also... Here's to a good game and hope we win.

Chris Luper Mar 02 07

Good read on a recruit's reevaluation after switching commit from Wash State to USC

Kyle Wilber was a 2 star Wake recruit with a Nebraska offer. I am sure he would be a 3 star if he decided to go to Nebraska.

Jiim Mar 02 07

This is not meant as a slam on Zac because I am happy he got his chance and flourished... but saying he was a 4 star out of juco, when he was a 2 out of high school compares to redshirting a kid... by their junior and senior year our kids have transformed themselves into more stars... since that is what seems to catch the eye of the CFB universe.

Jim Mar 02 07

watching film and watching a kid play are different, but yes I understand that. NW was competitive for the couple season Barnett hung around then fell off... so thanks for proving my point.

I am not saying that 4+ star kids are untalented, all I am asserting is that scout and rival cannot and do not watch each kid they rely on regional stuff and who is recruiting them in the star system. Talent is out there that is unrated. Heck Wake's last kid in Skinner's class was Skinner... Wake wasn't even at his school to recruit him, they saw him play and evaluated them in person with their own eyes.

Jay Mar 02 07

We do actually think our staff has the ability to land kids that nobody else finds. Case in point, our last commit of the year, Gelo Oranige, a 2-star out of Florida who only came to the States from Haiti 3+ years ago.

Find him on Scout, Rivals, whatever, and look at his video.

2-stars. I rest my case.

Recruiting is a crapshoot. UNC, here in state, is case-in-point. They landed 11 4-star kids between 2004-2006, and they have just been awful. Awful. Sure, coaching was a part of it, but they also recruited kids who never saw the field (grades, etc...).

Our philosophy has loosely been: you can't teach speed, you can build size. I'm sure your corn-fed boys are still as big as they were in the 70s and 80s and we watched 'em on TV (mostly watching OU run around them), so it will must surely be an early season test for us.

We're looking forward to it, as I suppose you guys are. What else is there to do there besides wait for Spring football, then Fall football, then ???

Children of the Corn is a great movie, and I'm sure it does your state proud '-)

Chris Luper Mar 02 07

If he would have decided to stay at WSU, I doubt his rival profile would have even been updated to reflect a USC offer and he would have remained 2 stars.

Chris Luper Mar 02 07

Northwestern tied for the Big 10 title in 2000.

Jim Mar 02 07

NW - 95 - 10-2
96 - 9-3
97 - 5-7 (only bad losses were to Mich, Purdue, & OSU - all others were less than 7 - that is competitive)
98 - 3-9 (Barnett's last year and they weren't competitive)

As stated though... 2000 they were Co-Champs w/ Barnett's players so yeah I would say that is competitive.

Not every school can have the expectations of winning NCs each year only to be let down with .500 seasons... some have to want to be competitive with the occassional good year.

Jay Mar 02 07

Charles Thompson is a redeemed man! Just like GW! This country loves the comeback kid ...

UNC changes coaches, you failed to mention.

BTW, looking at your roster, looks like you have about 20 4-star kids next year. I'm sure we don't have a chance! Like we didn't have a chance against FSU this year and their 34 4-star and 6 5-star recruits. They were just too big, too fast, and too well coached for us. And in Tallahasee? Daggumit! That is just asking too much. We probably got beat 31-0. Oh, wait a minute! What the heck???

But to give you some tepid props -- you do have a point on recruiting. Yes, we lost our #1 QB, and our #1 and #2 running backs last year, but the stars did align to a degree. No denying.

Unfortunately, for most of the year, we got slightly lost behind the Rutgers feel-good story. Had we held our 17-point home 4th quarter lead over Clemson, we would have been the Rugers story of November. Not Rutgers.

We just locked up our coach well into Bobby Bowden agess, so as long as he doesn't get senile, we are sittin' perty. We fully expect to take greater advantage of our new nationally televised games and public persona as a "football school" in the 2008 class. We do have a small catch-22 in that most 4-star kids don't like the idea of redshirting anywhere, much less a school where you have to go to class and graduate.

But maybe we'll all be numbers runners down here in three, four years. Poo pooing schools like UVa or Boston College for not pulling in enough 4-star kids to even compete with us. We'll see. I hope not. I like the 3-star kids like Jon Abbate that have monster collegiate careers much more than the 4-star busts ... like Lawrence Phillips. Though he was pretty good in college, I suppose, when he wasn't dragging women around town by the hair.

BTW, Godfrey was a bit tacky. Though we expect to get a lot of that in the next few years. From all reports, he is a great kid, God-fearing, church going that ran into a buzz saw of a neice who thought his full ride college scholarship meant cash, and she wanted a piece of the pie. Not evidently very intelligent, she didn't understand that it was not money he was going to see in the next four years, and thus the cry of wolf. Took him a year to expunge that. He's paid his dues.

But if you want to assume that we recruit bag kids, I point you to our nation-leading graduation rate ... 108%. I kid, but I believe it is over 90%. How your boys do?

Chris Luper Mar 02 07

Penn State was 5-7 in 2000 (4 Big 10 losses). Ohio State was 8-4, had 3 Big 10 losses (two of which were to teams that NW beat). So each of these teams were mid level Big 10 teams that year even though they didn't have to play one of the conference's best teams.

There are plenty of examples. Wisconsin is a mainstay in the Big 10 right behind the Big 2 and just about always top 25, and they have recruiting classes consistently in the upper 30s and lower 40s.

GT's historical rankings would have them near the bottom of the ACC every year, and they have consistently been one of the upper level ACC teams.

And goodness, I would hope that Wake could expect 3-9 years since Grobe's worst record at Wake in 6 years is 4-7.

David Mar 02 07

Steve, "I hate to break it to you" but you are wrong. When that guy who was going to WSU committed to USC, its not like he suddenly had an increase in talent. Just look at another example. Chris Leak committed to Wake Forest verbally as a one star recruit, and then switched his verbal to Florida, where he magically became a better football player and became a five star recruit. You will also see another pattern in here. Carolina - State school - approx. 32,000 undergrads. Florida - state school - Don't even know how many. USC - state school - you get the point. Its not a magical influx of talent. Seriously.

Jim Mar 02 07

I would love for Wake to be bowl eligible each year, but I am realistic and understand our history. We have been to 7 bowls in our history, so clearly that is against us going annually. Most if not all Wake fans are thrilled with what Grobe has done in his tenure... we are competitive in almost all games, very rarely blown out. We are winning games and he has a winning record at Wake, not many coaches can say that. I think our future is bright with Grobe at the helm.

Jim Mar 02 07

Don't take this the wrong way but... not everybody can be Nebraska - a storied tradition, NCs, and a loyal following from the entire state. Wake is the 4th BCS team in the state of NC and also has to compete with ECU for fans. All of the schools you keeping mentioning are historically the best teams, large state schools, and almost ZERO competition in their states for talent and fans. There are very few private institutions that compete for NCs annually... ND and USC are it. Wake is barely half the size of these schools and clearly less tradition.

Now some of these tradition rich schools have fallen off of the map and their fans still demand NCs - which is delusional. Fans need to gain perspective and if you want to fault me or knock me for having perspective then fine, but Wake has me thrilled from a football standpoint over the past 6 years (basketball that is another story).

Hope to have you in Winston come Sept...

Grant Mar 02 07

WOW!! I've been reading and posting to this site since it started, and I can't recall one time where there has been this much back and forth on one subject.

Curious to see the comments in the fall when it's taken to the field.

Jim Mar 02 07

Forgot about Miami, they are also only 25 years old in the college football landscape - and let's agree they did not achieve success the right way.

As for not capitalizing this year... we already had about 13 or 14 verbals before we started getting the media publicity and Grobe is not the type of coach to tell a recruit no... he is a man of his word. I think the bump will be next year if we can keep up the success.

Jay Mar 02 07

Last response. Most of our 2-stars, we signed early. Almost all of our 3-stars, we signed late, AFTER our win at Maryland that got us in the Championship game. We only had 20 schollys, and 4 of those were freed up late by a few transfers and early graduaters, so it was unclear if we HAD the extra few schollys to give.

We danced with a 5-star. He chose Florida over Wake after rescinding his verbal to USC. We were close there.

Rutgers got most of the Cinderella rep early in the year (recruiting season).

With a few graduating players likely to see some significant playing time in the NFL next year (Abbate, Gattis, possibly Morton), and continued success -- we fully expect to see our bump in recruiting in 2008. But Grobe has indicated he will not give up his quest for quality kids ...

Buck Mar 02 07

You know nothing of substance about the Godfrey case, but you had to trot that out because there's nothing else to point to - and the serious charges you mention were dropped - had nothing to do with the Alford plea.

Wake did get a bump from the ACC Championship - with few scholarships to offer in last year's class, we only had 4-5 more spots after the Bowl, and we got very good players with outstanding offer sheets regardless of stars. Anyone who follows recruiting with any objective viewpoint knows the bump would be in the following recruiting class, which will be a class of 23 or so - and if you'd look at the guys we're on the list with now for 2008, you'd see our recruiting has picked up from the OBowl bump.

Wake has tremendous team speed, we have four very good running backs next year, we get back our starting DE, a starting WR and a DB that were out last year, along with Godfrey, and have a lot of guys returning. We lost both our safeties and that's our biggest concern.

I was looking forward to having you guys in; now I'm REALLY looking forward to it knowing what you think of the ACC Champs.

Jay Mar 02 07

Actually, quite a few of us DO know the Godfrey case fairly intimately well beyond what we have read in the paper as he's a local boy and some of our posters are very familiar with all the kids in question, authorities, parents, church, etc...

The only problem with bloggers is the assumption of fact or assumption of knowledge. Now, I could be blowing hot air too ... but I'm not.

Suffice it to say that MANY folks were in on this decision to admit, NOT simply the athletic department. After all the initial charge was a sex crime and half our student body is -- you guessed it -- female.

So, just lay off the keyboard on this one. You don't know what you're talking about and you're undermining the "strength" of your other opines.

Buck Mar 02 07

Well, Steve, unfortunately, you're wrong and you'd lose your wager - I'm an attorney in NC, have connections within our program and in the legal community, and know quite a bit about it.

But if you want to talk about character issues on Wake's team, this is off your journalstar.com board from a NU poster:

Well there are rumors flying around all over campus about substance abuse problems and Nebraska athletes. Yes they are just rumors but I wouldn't be suprised to see more Huskers kicked off teams with little more explaination than "respecting their privacy". Since Stevie P runs this town and media outlets we'll never know the real reasons behind all these mysterious "illnesses" and suspensions.

Glass house, Steve? Hmmm ...

A "character issue" is very, very unusual in the Wake program because, admit it or not, Steve, we do things differently - we lead the nation in graduating kids from a top 25 national university - you need to give this little argument of yours, about which you know nothing except what YOU read in the papers, and then you don't read all of it, alone. If you knew anything about the Godfrey story, you'd know he was a victim of an unfounded allegation brought for monetary gain. It happens. Get over it. You got nothing on this one.

BTW, that journalstar.com board also had comments from your guys that your o-linemen are very fat and slow - that's not what you want to bring into Groves. Could be ugly.

Johnson Mar 02 07

Be glad you're only playing our guys one more time. Next year's juniors who lead our standout defense were the players we got after winning the Seattle Bowl. If we can stack a defense like that after the Seattle Bowl, imagine what we can do after going to the Orange Bowl.

"But if character is everything, you don't go near that kid with a ten foot pole. Are you telling me that there aren't 25 kids worth taking that don't have something like that on their resume? Come on."

This coming from a fan of the football factory that recruited Lawrence Phillips and Jason Peter.

Jay Mar 02 07

Oh, snap!

Jay Mar 02 07

It's a Friday and I'm procrastinating. But you are really digging yourself a hole, aren't you?

Godfrey was given a scholly BEFORE the incident in question and then it was withdrawn. Due to the character of kid and the "oddness" of the case, the University decided to hold the spot, if you will, if Godfrey could prove a number of things, not just his innocence.

But you are happy with your head buried in the sand, so whatever. But we did not offer the kid despite the charge, we offered the kid based on his ability and personality and character BEFORE his worst nightmare happened.

And incidentally, your NU problem is not simply a few kids doing drugs -- your star running back had to be admitted to the hospital under what seems peculiar circumstances. I think you should be more worried about what is going on in your own house, rather than digging for snippets in ours.

Grant Mar 02 07

Good Lord! Everyone let it go and hit up happy hour! There will plenty of time for blog bashing back and forth in the fall.

Jay Mar 02 07

Yeah, I'm new to college football. That poster on my cork-board wall -- Joe Washington leaping an opponent while running a simple end-around -- my Daddy gave me. I have no idea who he is. But those old face masks are cull!

You are reaching Children of the Corn heights, dude. Stephen King spooky.

but hey -- you've tacked your angle and your sticking to it. That's sailing language, btw, you poor land-locked soul!

Hands remove sand. Head meet hole. Ahhhh, better than Prozac.

Good luck with your season. And I hope Lucky is able to overcome whatever has felled him in time for next season.

Jay Mar 02 07

Steve--
He won't be the first 5-star running back we've shut down!

I think they ought to make the players wear their high school rating on their helmets, like buckeyes. 1-star to 5-star. That way, we could better follow the stars of the game ;-)

As for your alls trip, I think you ought to head out west 40 miles or so, south a short bit, and hit some of the best barbecue joints in the country.

For more Winston-specific advice, I'd go to our Scout.com sports board. It is pretty active and folks are generally friendly. We're slightly hot that you crazy rabid, I-ain't-got-nuddin'-better-to-do fans are buying up our season tickets for your one game against us. Hope you all figure a way to resell those tickets, or give 'em to us at the tailgate because we could sure use 'em on our road to double-dgit wins!

Deac Mar 02 07

"I was critical (some would say overly critical) of Kansas State's 2007 recruiting class because the Wildcats failed to capitalize on their best season in years. Compared to Wake Forest though, KSU was as opportunistic as it gets. The ACC champions were dead last in recruiting (per Rivals.com)"

Our recruiting class was all but locked up prior to November in terms of verbals. Instead of cutting any of those guys loose for, "better," recruits, Wake stayed with those guys that verballed early.

"The Demon Deacons grabbed just twenty players, only eight of which received a three-star rating from either Rivals.com or Scout.com. None of their players received a four or five star rating."

"Just twenty players"? We used every available scholarship. You realize that there are limited number of scholarships available each year, right? It should also be noted that Wake invited 24 kids to visit last year. 20 of them signed an LOI. In other words, our coaches got almost every player they wanted. We trust our coaches.

Otherwise, it will take sustained success over several years for our recruiting targets to start getting respect in the rankings. Most Wake fans expect that we will see more, "star results," in next year's class. But most of us aren't losing sleep about stars, honestly.

For what it's worth, most of our coaches didn't expect the results we got last season. They thought we were still a year away from breaking through. Many of us are expecting the team to be better on the whole this year, although the results may not be as good. There certainly were some magical moments last year that would be difficult to recreate, but as Mike pointed out, we have been on the brink for a few seasons now and finally found a way to force the breaks in our favor.

I am really looking forward to this game for many reasons. It should be a fun one.

Gregory Mar 02 07

Wow! I am way impressed with these Demon Deacon fans!! This is GREAT!
Darren, Jason, Steve and company, you must find a way to include these "Mad Hatters" come late summer. This is like mid season smack and I've got an itch I can't scratch!

That said, I like "our" chances. So Wake is fast? Great! Hope they still like to run it, too. Honestly, I haven't seen them since '05 when Nebraska was still learning how to pass the dadgum thing. Couldn't run that year either. Now Nebraska can run and pass. Maybe Nebraska has a little speed too. Not that these wild and crazy Deacon fans will notice. What they will notice is a resurgence of Husker POWER. That rude in your face type. Big XII fat and slow can and will wear you out. Nebraska will come hard and heavy (because they care enough to bring their very best).

Jay Mar 13 07

Wake doesn't offer kids who haven't qualified. That's what State and UNC do. Maybe that is what Nebraska does. We do not.

'sa blang thang Mar 13 07

O.k., to the Deacon guy way up there who asked us to be reasonable, here's some reason to go with those 'apples' I know you must like: NE will come into Deacon "stadium" next season and beat them so far into the ground that they will wish they were only six feet under.

"Demons" are just another upstart team that will in short time be thrown off onto the junk pile of other upstart, wannabe, flash in the pan teams. Northwestern, above, was a good example; Smurfs, Mildcats, Mormans, and Knights also come to mind.

Giving the benefit of the doubt, let's say Geeks, uh sorry, Deacs have a few more 'good' seasons of 6-8 wins, coach Grubby will be outta there--gone like a train--lookin' for bigger fish to fry.

Like above stated upstarts, Deac FAN has no business coming onto a Big Red site and telling us 'what's up'. You will have to work damn hard and be damn lucky for the rest of the century to acquire something close to our tradition of success. The only problem there is that NE will be far ahead of you for the rest of the century!
So keep on recruiting and believing in those 'no chippers', that trend suits me just fine.

Lesson in reason complete. How'd you like them 'apples'?

'sa blang thang Mar 13 07

Jay, if one the the big, 'unique' philosophies of the Deacs is that you can't teach speed, what, then, do track coaches do, sit and twiddle their thumbs all day, passively watching those fast guys run fast?

'sa blang thang Mar 13 07

Hello, NE was 2 losses from being in the BCS and finishing in the top 10 this year--yeah we've fallen off the map. But close doesn't fly so well in Husker Nation.

Jay Mar 14 07

Sa blang thang--

I thought they spoke English in NE? I can't understand a thing from your pigeon English other than you enjoyed the show, '6 Feet Under,' and still wish it were on TV.

Does that cover it?

'sa blang thang Mar 14 07

Thanks 'Jay' Yepper, I gez thah-t thar prob'ly duz cuh-ver et. Shucks, yuz gah-t me reeel gud; 'back at me' 'n such! You don't sounds JUST smart, you sounds REEEEL smart. I waz wishin' sun' tines thah-t I coulda gone to a fancy college and such like ya'll did, but ev'n tho I gah-t purdy gud at writin' at the end 'o my GED course, I nev'r did care much for readin'... Oh well, maybe next 'lifetime', as the rich yuppies 'n such always say. Hey I saw 'et ya'll gots a reeel lawyer on yer blog team. Gosh willy, a lawyer, nah I dun't mean no diz respect 'n all but I wud bet 5 lbs 'o chicken feathers thah-t thah-t guy is ev'n smarter than ya'll. Sh%$##@t!

'sa blang thang Mar 14 07

...oh, I fergaht to tells ya, thah-t 'Bad Readin' was the main thang that kep' me frun gittin' thah-t thar GED. My Gran'ma waz reeel sad 'bout it(the rest 'o my family wiped out by pesti'yde poisoning from farmin'), but I figger sun'tin' teeny weeny smah-ll like thah-t ain't too 'nport'nt to a big 'ol reeely smah-rt college guy such ez yerself...

Oh, well, gud luck with that l'il 'ol Deac team, 'n coach Grubby. I sure hopes Big Red dun't smash ya'll too hah-rd next fall...

Jay Mar 15 07

hahaha.

Much more sensible post, blah blah thang

'sa blang thang Mar 15 07

Jay,
'Grassy-ass', I think.

No, really don't have any prob with the Deacs; rooted for them a few times last season. Hope they don't beat us though, that would be as bad as the 'Smurfs' over OU.

ze bop Sep 02 07

Hey Jay, where is ya?!

Uh, I wouldn't want to be Wake this week. Big Red's going to take your sorry excuse for a team to the wood shed! Oh yeah!

C'mon, get online, let's see what you have to say.....

'SA BLANG!